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What does money mean to you? (poll)
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Poll #745661 Tacos in the bank poll

If I had more money, I would be happier.

True
17(65.4%)
False
9(34.6%)

I would consider myself rich in money, and derive as much possible happiness from money without the negative side-effects that money create, if I had $_______.

$100
0(0.0%)
$1,000
0(0.0%)
$10,000
1(3.7%)
$50,000
0(0.0%)
$100,000
2(7.4%)
$500,000
4(14.8%)
$1,000,000 (one MILLION dollars)
8(29.6%)
$2,000,000
4(14.8%)
$5,000,000
2(7.4%)
$10,000,000
5(18.5%)
$20,000,000
1(3.7%)
$50,000,000
0(0.0%)
$100,000,000
0(0.0%)
$1,000,000,000 (one BILLION dollars)
0(0.0%)

I feel like the amount chosen above is a reachable goal for myself.

True
16(59.3%)
False
11(40.7%)

Considering who I am, I deserve the amount chosen above.

True
16(59.3%)
False
11(40.7%)

All good people deserve to have the money needed to make them rich and happy.

True
12(44.4%)
False
15(55.6%)

Where does money primarily come from?

Those who imagine themselves rich become rich.
1(3.7%)
Hard work, pain, and perseverance.
5(18.5%)
Being greedy and corrupt (cheating people).
0(0.0%)
Being in the right place at the right time.
8(29.6%)
You need money to make money.
6(22.2%)
Trees.
5(18.5%)
Good ideas and creativity.
2(7.4%)

In one sentence, what does money mean to you?


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i think you need some I DON'T KNOW boxes.

well, it is a poll after all. i want answers!

but i did forget to ask the one question i really wanted to ask, which was, "Is there enough money in the world for everyone to be happy?"

yeah, but i don't know. also, i consider myself rich right now, but my net worth is less than all of those boxes -- it's somewhere in the negative. however, i am pretty rich because i can afford to buy myself really fancy soaps and other pretty things. and if you ask, i'll buy you a bottle of veuve cliquot! that's rich, right? RICH.

but then i also think that a million dollars is just one painting, and 20 million dollars is just 20 paintings, so maybe RICH isn't until you get to 10 million dollars. that's how i got myself that answer there.

and everyone deserves everything! so yes, everyone deserves to be rich! and of course there's enough money in the world for everyone to be happy, because lots of happy people are in debt, and the debt evens out the people who need to be bank rich to be happy. know what i mean?

to clarify being in the negative: it's much less in the negative than the negative i had before, and the money coming in is big, but it's all still negative. oh but wait, i think i might have been happier back when it was in the bigger negative. i am happier ABOUT MONEY right now. but not happier in general.

wait, who cares about happiness? i thought the goal was mania.

yeah, i use "happiness" as a placeholder for all good things, even though it's not really a static state as happiness implies. mania, amplification, bigger feelings, higher highs and lower lows!

ok, another part of why i quit my therapist was because she didn't understand this, and she kept talking about "safety" and i told her in the end that i didn't really care about safety and i didn't care about her definition of "doing what is wise" and we had been talking about that for WEEKS even though neither being safe nor being wise was one of my goals. i think i can finally concentrate on REAL life AMPLIFICATION now, starting with my chilean sea bass dinner TONIGHT. if i can have chilean sea bass tonight and drive a range rover to the desert on monday for mineral bath treatments and a deep tissue massage, champagne and jacuzzi time, doesn't that mean i'm RICH? doesn't that mean i have RICH potential, and i could start farming babies in a geodesic dome at any moment? benson, that hardly takes any capital at all! all you need is my goddamned womb! i am in a really crazy mood right now, but that doesn't mean we should quit this conversation. on the contrary, of course.

i scared another unsuspecting dinner guest that i just met last night by talking about my idea about corporate baby camps (i didn't even GET to the farming bit)... she started it by saying she was a psychologist and her favorite psychologist was b.f.skinner, weirdest of them all!

i think being with your therapist helped ground some of the ideas a bit... you have a stake in the ground at "safe" and "wise" and now we can pull the bungee cord over to big, amplified, creative, and crazy. and we can launch decapitated heads over the fence with it!

let's write the book on life amplification.

i think you answered exactly the same as me on all the questions. we think alike, and have similar reasons for our answers. i'm reading this chapter in the millionaire course that's pretty interesting because it is making me realize that i do have some fucked up ideas about money. for example, subconsciously i think i'm being greedy by wanting to be rich. and i think those subconscious beliefs will prevent me from ever being rich because i don't really want to be greedy. lots of beliefs tangled together.

and yeah, being rich is easy. we're rich already. we can hire singing polar bears, start companies, ride in hot air balloons, and eat chilean sea bass. that's rich! but at the same time, these are small potatoes compared to building cities, starting cults, supporting an art scene, exporting babies, and having our own television show. there are some big potatoes out there, if only we can imagine ourselves in the big potato shoes.

yeah, except YOU don't believe that money comes from trees! DUH.

i think it's good that we have the same beliefs about money, and i think that will work well for us in going into business together. i was thinking about it last night -- that we could start big or small, whatever we want, and it will fall into place, and the money will fall into place because we have lots of fans and we hardly ever go wrong and we are always stars no matter what. i am completely confident that we will do well, and i know that other people see us doing well, and that's all it really takes.

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great poll. and i like yer second paragraph there ("we can hire singing polar bears" etc) a lot.

thanks. i like how all the true/false questions are basically split down the middle... the best polls are the ones that reach no consensus. :)

oops, that was supposed to say "rich isn't until you get to 100 million dollars"...

For me at least it is empirically false that having more money makes me happier. If that was the case, I'd quit grad school and go work full-time making bank. I have turned down several extremely lucrative job offers so that I can continue my graduate work. Basically, I derive personal satisfaction from my interactions with others, intellectual fulfillment, and achievement of my goals. While I really am kind of miserable when I'm super poor, because I can't pay my bills and I get stressed out, I'm totally fine when making a halfway decent salary. Whether I'm making 30K or 100K has little bearing on how happy I am.

I like this outlook... I think mine is similar, but at the same time I see the potential for money to make positive changes in our society... you can turn ideas into reality with money. I have ideas, I need more reality! :)

You're right that there's no direct correlation between having money and being happy... money just symbolizes its power to change things for the better. How would you answer these questions if instead of money they were like:

* If I could create more positive change, I would be happier
* How much positive change do you want to have on your community?
* Making this amount of positive change is a reachable goal for myself

etc...

you should do that poll too mr paid account!

I feel like this poll is off the mark somehow.

I don't know, summing up a very complicated issue with cutesy lj polls just doesn't work for me.

on the other hand, not having money can be it's own freedom. for example, there are a number of decisions that i don't have to make on any given day, specifically because the lack of funds in my life means that decision is made for me. consequently, my decision-making energies are freed up to think on other things, and be more creative. when there's no chance of "throwing money at the problem," well, that's when the real work gets done.

i agree. having constraints is what forces creativity and invention. having too many options can lead to paralysis and wanting a little bit of everything but getting mostly nothing. but having money doesn't mean you can't create your own constraints. i think people like having limits forced on them, when it's really not that difficult to force limits on yourself... and that way you can make sure that the limits that are in place are the ones that you want to be there. but i think it takes practice to learn how to impose limits on yourself, and to get that same kind of creativity out of a situation that you don't HAVE to be creative in.

James's answers, I sort of agreed with most of them, but there was discussion. He's going to add you so he can comment on that because I am lazy. Therefore maybe I only deserve 50 grand. This was part of the discussion, I'm sure he will comment on it, and if he wasn't going to, I've obligated him to do so now!

p.s. glad you liked the fox CD. The crappy high-school cheerleader-esque fill-in music director kids at the college radio station I worked at must have rejected it because I found it (along with many other treasures, such as Sia's Colour the Small One and Morrissey's latest album) in the giveaway bin. I figured anything with foxes on it better be given away to you, lol.

I was going to say $0 instead of $500,000, but $0 wasn't an option and I would like to buy a dwelling.

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